damndaniel Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 Only a month into the game. Just created my first striking based fighter, a 25yo boxer. Had his first QFC fight, won by UD, he landed a lot of punches and didn't even get hit back once. Im very happy with his performance but one thing kinda bothers me. He didn't get the KO even when his opponent was tired and after landing all those punches. Do your best to guess his physicals, I had his slider set to 80 accuracy, 20 damage. 85 single shots to 15 combos. Here is the fight. http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=999848 SO does he have pillow punches or is it more likely that its the sliders, opponents chin, and lack of strength being a 25yo? Will weights and muscle bulk sups up his power? Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate all the advice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 You do have to consider the other guy has solid chin. Lack of strength, opp chin, lightweight and sliders. 80% acc is to high if aiming to clip solid (or higher) chins IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackking Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 Don't know his Str, but 20% damage is waaay too low to get a KO on almost anyone, much less a solid chin. Almost regardless of his strength this slider setting is the primary reason he didn't get a KO. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 Don't know his Str, but 20% damage is waaay too low to get a KO on almost anyone, much less a solid chin. Almost regardless of his strength this slider setting is the primary reason he didn't get a KO. You would be surprised lol. Depends on w/c and fighter KO power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackking Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 You would be surprised lol. Depends on w/c and fighter KO power. I knew I took a hard line there, I was just trying to emphasize that nobody uses 20% dam to go KO hunting and he shouldn't at all be surprised he didn't get a KO at 155# using this setting. Yes, muscle bulk will up his strength which in turn increases his KO power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damndaniel Posted February 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 Thanks guys. I kinda thought all the accurate punches mixed with the body shots would make him vulnerable late, and maybe get a 3rd round TKO or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 Don't know his Str, but 20% damage is waaay too low to get a KO on almost anyone, much less a solid chin. Almost regardless of his strength this slider setting is the primary reason he didn't get a KO. http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=974725 100% accuracy KO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackking Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=974725 100% accuracy KO Ok, I stand corrected. Damn... that's crazy. You really went 100% acc?!???!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageMMa Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 I knew I took a hard line there, I was just trying to emphasize that nobody uses 20% dam to go KO hunting and he shouldn't at all be surprised he didn't get a KO at 155# using this setting. Yes, muscle bulk will up his strength which in turn increases his KO power. This is wrong, I have 53 knockout wins,16 decision wins, and 13 submission victories... I have NEVER put the slider over 30% damage and it is almost always around 20% about 80% of my fights end in first round ko... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 This is wrong, I have 53 knockout wins,16 decision wins, and 13 submission victories... I have NEVER put the slider over 30% damage and it is almost always around 20% about 80% of my fights end in first round ko...Buy your win ratio is almost barely 1:1 and you could fight better competition.You CAN ko with high acc/aggro and headhunt. Less probable against a solid chin in 155lb or lower w/c and well trained fighters or good slider. And you have low strength. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageMMa Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Buy your win ratio is almost barely 1:1 and you could fight better competition. You CAN ko with high acc/aggro and headhunt. Less probable against a solid chin in 155lb or lower w/c and well trained fighters or good slider. And you have low strength. I don't use high aggressiveness either.. I have knocked out some granite chin opponents but i'll chalk that up to them having bad strike defense or my guy just having good power lol Also, the fact about 20 of my first 30 creations lost there first fights and I released them, I keep making silly fighters with no intentions of winning for tournaments or the island, I just figured out about two months ago how to actually train my fighters, the fact I used to not set slider, and often being outmatched by the other manager in experience has a lot to do with that win ratio. lmao Edit: Pretty sure I was reading things wrong... lmfao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageMMa Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Lol I had won 14 of my last 20 before I started making tournament fighters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularJohn Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Thanks guys. I kinda thought all the accurate punches mixed with the body shots would make him vulnerable late, and maybe get a 3rd round TKO or something. This makes perfect sense but still, depending on how much accuracy %, opp. chin, Power, Strength, etc. the KO might just not come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 This makes perfect sense but still, depending on how much accuracy %, opp. chin, Power, Strength, etc. the KO might just not come. Vould maybe work with a high swing foe the fence tho 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Former #1 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=269807 He is as pillow fisted as it gets, you can make a career without having KO power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageMMa Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 You would be surprised lol. Depends on w/c and fighter KO power. I agree it takes the same amount of pressure to knockout someone who weighs 135 as it does 235 lbs, so in the higher weight classes it should be MUCH easier to knock out an opponent! Most heavyweights generate enough power in a half ass jab to knockout 90% of the people in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galahad Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 One of my guys landed more than 100 G&P and no KO to an opponent with no chin to speak of - http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=1022192 Probably hidden is very low which is unfortunate as i had high hopes for him because of his chin. Regardless someone mentioned that you can make a great fighter even without KO power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyel Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 One of my guys landed more than 100 G&P and no KO to an opponent with no chin to speak of - http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=1022192 Probably hidden is very low which is unfortunate as i had high hopes for him because of his chin. Regardless someone mentioned that you can make a great fighter even without KO power. How much strenght did he have in the fight and how did you go on accurate/powerful gnp slider? Also, the thing with gnp is that it does negative damage in guard/halfguard, some damage in side-control, and large damage in mount and back, so if most of the pounding happened in (half)guard and you had the accurate gnp slider far to the right, then your boy might actually have ko power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornmma1 Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 I have to agree with a few others on here, 20% damage isn't a lot. When the opponent is managed by a decent manager and has somewhat of a chin, you'll not be able to get KO's easily. Test around and use some big damage sliders as well, to find your best sliders for specific divisions/fights, it's the best way to learn it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Former #1 http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=269807 He is as pillow fisted as it gets, you can make a career without having KO power Pablo Maraçon - Hiddens Report. Intelligence: 91/150. Heart: 135/150. Chin: 111/150. Injury Proneness: 14/150. Self Confidence: 105/150. Cuts: 94/150. Fast Learner: 128/150. Natural KO: 45/150. Average: 90.4/150. Rank: 60,812 out of 199,498 (top 30%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10thPlanetKT Posted September 25, 2020 Report Share Posted September 25, 2020 Don't know his Str, but 20% damage is waaay too low to get a KO on almost anyone, much less a solid chin. Almost regardless of his strength this slider setting is the primary reason he didn't get a KO. ? my fighter Ademaro dos Anjos rocked a fighter at very high accuracy in the third round. You just need the right sliders and gameplan. https://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=1013722 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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