Poaching?

[Rambo]

1 hour ago, bjornmma1 said:

You send a 350k fighter to Syn, act as if it is the second coming of Jesus and that you are the bravest man on planet earth, only to fight nothing but 350k fighters afterwards. 

 

I vastly over/under estimated a concept and now I'm sticking to my guns. 350K's will show up one day or I'll just Bjorn it out and request tune ups only.

Blew most of his peak training time on recovering sessions because he was too busy kicking ass in a creation tournament.

[bjornmma1]

15 minutes ago, Rambo said:

I vastly over/under estimated a concept and now I'm sticking to my guns. 350K's will show up one day or I'll just Bjorn it out and request tune ups only.

Blew most of his peak training time on recovering sessions because he was too busy kicking ass in a creation tournament.

Les excuses sont faites pour s'en servir. 

[j666]

So I'm just curious how trying to sign a fighter under contract is considered poaching? No one is holding a gun to anyone's head. I think I'd have more of a problem with managers/fighters bailing, than manager's/orgs offering. If you don't think this shit goes down in real life, you're crazy...even with the union laws, IF the league even has a union. Not to mention, don't you have to be able to leave before you can actually leave? If someone doesn't want to re-sign, there's nothing you can do about it other than ask them would keep them there, and then follow up on that.

[The1rstSaint]

16 hours ago, bjornmma1 said:

You send a 350k fighter to Syn, act as if it is the second coming of Jesus and that you are the bravest man on planet earth, only to fight nothing but 350k fighters afterwards. 

 

Is someone jerking off this goat?

[Monsieur.Camara]

1 hour ago, j666 said:

So I'm just curious how trying to sign a fighter under contract is considered poaching? No one is holding a gun to anyone's head. I think I'd have more of a problem with managers/fighters bailing, than manager's/orgs offering. If you don't think this shit goes down in real life, you're crazy...even with the union laws, IF the league even has a union. Not to mention, don't you have to be able to leave before you can actually leave? If someone doesn't want to re-sign, there's nothing you can do about it other than ask them would keep them there, and then follow up on that.

 

we all know you cannot put a gun to anyone's head in any game however we used to abide by gentleman rules in this game and usually champs were off-limits

you guys wanna give carte-blanche to woteva then expect more of these threads in the future, more delicious tears from beta managers like J.W. SOFTman

I'm just gonna keep stacking the bodies because thats what i do bestest. 

 

[Rambo]

Guns? Body counts? Camara watching too much Netflix today

Chris Steve's body is right at the top of our pile next to Miss Miracle's account and FARTMMA aka RanSACKedMMA.

Pillage, burn, and plough.

[TJMitchell]

It's only gentlemen rules for stuff that effects Camara. When it comes to multi cheating, or signing free agents from your own multi account, or trying to con Mike into boosting your fighter rank, or going off site to beg for votes in year end awards, then that's all fine.

[barney]

1 hour ago, TJMitchell said:

It's only gentlemen rules for stuff that effects Camara. When it comes to multi cheating, or signing free agents from your own multi account, or trying to con Mike into boosting your fighter rank, or going off site to beg for votes in year end awards, then that's all fine.

Or stealing avatars

 

I mean, look at that rep

It is a miracle guy is not perma-ban from forum like Humors

 

Funny fact tho, since forum change and spin&win is bugged we are not seeing him flooding anymore... ? ???

[Rambo]

that forum rep is impressive. kudos for commitment.

I'm only here for the spin and win credits.

[HareRumpler]

12 hours ago, Rambo said:

that forum rep is impressive. kudos for commitment.

I'm only here for the spin and win credits.

Oh, you get Spin & Win credits for posting...?  ??

[bjornmma1]

2 minutes ago, HareRumpler said:

Oh, you get Spin & Win credits for posting...?  ??

Not now, but Mike is working on it, I am sure. 

[HareRumpler]

1 minute ago, bjornmma1 said:

Not now, but Mike is working on it, I am sure. 

Haha, so it's good to practice, like this!  ??

[10thPlanetKT]

On 12/16/2020 at 8:46 PM, j666 said:

So I'm just curious how trying to sign a fighter under contract is considered poaching? No one is holding a gun to anyone's head. I think I'd have more of a problem with managers/fighters bailing, than manager's/orgs offering. If you don't think this shit goes down in real life, you're crazy...even with the union laws, IF the league even has a union. Not to mention, don't you have to be able to leave before you can actually leave? If someone doesn't want to re-sign, there's nothing you can do about it other than ask them would keep them there, and then follow up on that.

You have a point. But then again though, I'm sure you noticed after so many years in this game. Only 2 ID orgs survive & thrive on average per new ID. When a mid level restricted org is starting to peak and there fighters get poached or leave to one of the top 3 already well established orgs it creates a canalization of star top 100 fighters and creating a new organization is pointless. Because all of your fighters may try to leave in that 1 year of limbo as a mid level org before a breakout year of ppvs and new stars to sustain the promotion etc. etc. All your hard work building up your loyal manager's base fighters gone. You are  right but I could understand why JW wants to keep his champs in house. Nothing wrong with that. 

[barney]

1 hour ago, 10thPlanetKT said:

All your hard work building up your loyal manager's base fighters gone. You are  right but I could understand why JW wants to keep his champs in house. Nothing wrong with that. 

If they leave they aint quite loyal tho, are they?

[popart]

1 minute ago, barney said:

If they leave they aint quite loyal tho, are they?

Alexa, play All Girls Are The Same by Juice WRLD

[bjornmma1]

1 hour ago, barney said:

If they leave they aint quite loyal tho, are they?

Not per se. Managers can also leave from an ID org on good terms with the owner. For example a top talent might reach a point in his young career where no more real challenges are available at the ID level. An org owner can then get creative and start with superfights, or even gradually lower the ID range of the org. However, if an org owner is not willing to do this or the manager is not interested in those possible solutions, a good talk can end the contract for that fighter, without compromising the loyalty between the manager and the org owner for future business. An org owner should be smart and not focus on one fighter, but on a long term relationship with loyal managers who keep producing top talent for ID orgs. 

[Mannetosen]

On 12/16/2020 at 10:37 AM, bjornmma1 said:

You send a 350k fighter to Syn, act as if it is the second coming of Jesus and that you are the bravest man on planet earth, only to fight nothing but 350k fighters afterwards. 

 

At least he fought someone with his alleged 'second coming of Jesus'

[kenlow73]

I don’t even like poached eggs.

[zackmartin11]

Hell, even the "evil" Alexander Biro doesn't poach fighters

[TJMitchell]

Did you just 3rd person yourself?

[10thPlanetKT]

13 hours ago, bjornmma1 said:

Not per se. Managers can also leave from an ID org on good terms with the owner. For example a top talent might reach a point in his young career where no more real challenges are available at the ID level. An org owner can then get creative and start with superfights, or even gradually lower the ID range of the org. However, if an org owner is not willing to do this or the manager is not interested in those possible solutions, a good talk can end the contract for that fighter, without compromising the loyalty between the manager and the org owner for future business. An org owner should be smart and not focus on one fighter, but on a long term relationship with loyal managers who keep producing top talent for ID orgs. 

Exactly. For example me personally I am struggling to pay for this crazy $100,000 a week gym that I have so I wanted A.D.A to go to one of the top #3 super organizations to start making up the difference. I also wanted more super fights to get the best out of my top fighter while he is 3 months from entering his prime. So JW gave A.D.A a pay bonus and more high stakes fights which will start helping me achieve my goals.  My perspective is I just don't want to see all these ID organizations die. If we keep relying on SYN, GAMMA, and PULSE to do all the heavy lifting then when those managers get busy in their real lives this game will get dry. No one needs that shit right now. 

[bjornmma1]

7 hours ago, 10thPlanetKT said:

Exactly. For example me personally I am struggling to pay for this crazy $100,000 a week gym that I have so I wanted A.D.A to go to one of the top #3 super organizations to start making up the difference. I also wanted more super fights to get the best out of my top fighter while he is 3 months from entering his prime. So JW gave A.D.A a pay bonus and more high stakes fights which will start helping me achieve my goals.  My perspective is I just don't want to see all these ID organizations die. If we keep relying on SYN, GAMMA, and PULSE to do all the heavy lifting then when those managers get busy in their real lives this game will get dry. No one needs that shit right now. 

I agree with 90% of the above. The only thing that I see different is concerning fighter pay in ID orgs. I prefer to fight cheap or even for free in ID orgs, so that they can use their own money for the org's growth, what in the long run will benefit my youngsters as well. If cash is required for example to upkeep an elite gym, it could be worth it to scout the free agents and pick them up to fight in the elite orgs and make cash, or do a job such as writing or design avatars etc. 

I do however appreciate the fact that you did not just put up a wall for the org owner concerning ADA his future, but that you had a constructive discussion that benefits both parties, that is something I do not hear that often anymore, so well done there guys!