ezez12 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Who do you guys think is the goat of mma in my opinion its gsp or jon jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjkjkj Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 GSP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 GSP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 Jon Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curix Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 Jones, but GPS is also great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenhornbyMMA Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 Artrem Lobov Jones GSP Silva Fedor DJ Khabib Usman in that order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 DJ > GSP > JJ I mean, if we're comparing skill and technique levels of these 3... DJ is most superior specimen on this list? even for a little nugget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottxbandz Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Rambo said: DJ > GSP > JJ I mean, if we're comparing skill and technique levels of these 3... DJ is most superior specimen on this list? even for a little nugget GSP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 9 hours ago, scottxbandz said: GSP I think DJ was superior to GSP (and Silva, JJ, Usman, etc) in every facet outside of star power. I can't even give GSP the nod on fight IQ. I'll say GSP had a pretty good job and was pretty good at using his range. but imho the GOAT streak is DJ. His level of competition was in its prime, more technically sound, and overall just higher level mixed martial artist than GSP and JJ's opponents. I don't think he got a lot of "freebies" (as champ). tbf Usman hasn't been given any freebies (as champ, I count maia 42 y/o ass lol) yet either unless you count Masdival 1 or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1rstSaint Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Rambo said: I think DJ was superior to GSP (and Silva, JJ, Usman, etc) in every facet outside of star power. I can't even give GSP the nod on fight IQ. I'll say GSP had a pretty good job and was pretty good at using his range. but imho the GOAT streak is DJ. His level of competition was in its prime, more technically sound, and overall just higher level mixed martial artist than GSP and JJ's opponents. I don't think he got a lot of "freebies" (as champ). tbf Usman hasn't been given any freebies (as champ, I count maia 42 y/o ass lol) yet either unless you count Masdival 1 or 2. This sounds like an obvious case of Dwarf Biasness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprooch Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 GSP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 11/21/2021 at 10:46 AM, The1rstSaint said: This sounds like an obvious case of Dwarf Biasness. Na, just from a technical standpoint he's probably the most talented of the 3 and his competition was probably more adequate or well balanced. GSP fought dudes who could wrestle and couldn't box or kick for shit (Fitch/Sherk) or guys like Condit, Dan Hardy, and Diaz who don't know how to spell takedown defense. Imho GSP never fought a Colby/Usman/Cejudo 2/Benevidez. Most complete MMA fighters GSP ever fought were Thiago Alvez, BJ Penn, and dare I say Michael Bisping? Jon Jones made a career beating up fighters well past their age drop off and those who he had a significant size advantage on and possible supplement advantage. Jones vs Gus 1 and Jones vs Cruz/Santos... what happens when he faces people with size that can strike that have a little bit of athleticism? if you're asking me the GOAT MMA fighter, off top of my head, from technical skill point and legacy perspective, imo I lean towards DJ. There's a bunch of high level guys who just haven't put together the legacy he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1rstSaint Posted December 3, 2021 Report Share Posted December 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Rambo said: Na, just from a technical standpoint he's probably the most talented of the 3 and his competition was probably more adequate or well balanced. GSP fought dudes who could wrestle and couldn't box or kick for shit (Fitch/Sherk) or guys like Condit, Dan Hardy, and Diaz who don't know how to spell takedown defense. Imho GSP never fought a Colby/Usman/Cejudo 2/Benevidez. Most complete MMA fighters GSP ever fought were Thiago Alvez, BJ Penn, and dare I say Michael Bisping? Jon Jones made a career beating up fighters well past their age drop off and those who he had a significant size advantage on and possible supplement advantage. Jones vs Gus 1 and Jones vs Cruz/Santos... what happens when he faces people with size that can strike that have a little bit of athleticism? if you're asking me the GOAT MMA fighter, off top of my head, from technical skill point and legacy perspective, imo I lean towards DJ. There's a bunch of high level guys who just haven't put together the legacy he did. Fair enough. I still to this day say Anderson Silva is the GOAT. Sure he had a rough end to his career but more props to him for fighting on, unlike Khabib and GSP who quit while they where on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 4 hours ago, The1rstSaint said: Fair enough. I still to this day say Anderson Silva is the GOAT. Sure he had a rough end to his career but more props to him for fighting on, unlike Khabib and GSP who quit while they where on top. Silva's streak has holes in it like JJ's. Classic UFC superstar, face of the org, cater to making you a human highlight reel treatment. Ala Conor. Nate. O'Malley. Many others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceSimmons Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 Conor McGregor is the GOAT. The FUTURE GOAT has spoken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 11/21/2021 at 1:41 PM, Rambo said: I think DJ was superior to GSP (and Silva, JJ, Usman, etc) in every facet outside of star power. I can't even give GSP the nod on fight IQ. I'll say GSP had a pretty good job and was pretty good at using his range. but imho the GOAT streak is DJ. His level of competition was in its prime, more technically sound, and overall just higher level mixed martial artist than GSP and JJ's opponents. I don't think he got a lot of "freebies" (as champ). tbf Usman hasn't been given any freebies (as champ, I count maia 42 y/o ass lol) yet either unless you count Masdival 1 or 2. Just the fact that he competed in the weakest division (and less prestigious one), basically excludes DJ in many people's eyes. I do agree that if we are comparing purely skills, then, he is probably the best. Speed, wrestling, submissions and a good standup game. His streak was also impressive (against usually weak level opposition). I would say he is a top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 "weakest" division, physically lol. Talent, athleticism, and skill was typically levels above. You see a lot more 1 dimensional fighters at the heavier W/C's than at the lighter ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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