saklain Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 I want to see everyone's opinion on if we should have fighter of the year awards this year for each weight class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 It never used to be a thing its an unnecessary fluff addition IMO and crowds the awards. Here's what we need Fighter of the Year - best Overall fighter of the year Restricted Fighter of the Year - Best ID of age restricted fighter of the year Manager of the year - best manager of the year Alliance of the year - The best alliance of the year Org of the year - best overall org of the year Restricted org of the year - Best ID or age restricted org KT Fighter of the Year - Best KT fighter of the year Grappler of the year - Best Grappler of the year CEO/Promoter of the Year - best org owner of the year (can be over multiple orgs or tournaments. Its about the owner themselves not the org or outside companies) Writer of the year - Best Writer of the year Company of the year - Best clothing or nutrition company of the year Avatar of the year - Best Avatar of the year Event Poster of the year - Best event poster of the year Event of the Year - Best event of the MMATycoon year Fight of the Year - Best fight of the year KO of the year - Best KO of the year Sub of the year - Best submission of the year Upset of the year - Biggest upset of the year Rivalry of the year - The biggest manager or fighter rivalry of the year Character of the year - Best MMATycoon character of the year EDIT: After thinking long and hard I made some revisions to my list. I went from 25 to 20 awards. I cut Most improved: was iffy on this one to begin with, seems like a participation trophy Comeback: I agree with Billy's take on this one New manager: too hard to actually keep track of who's new, usually won by somebody who isn't new Designer of the year: already have poster of the year and avatar of the year. Third award is overkill. Tournament of the year: not sure why we are giving a tournament an award? A CEO/Promoter of the year award makes way more sense and having both is overkill This would cover every meanful category in today's present day without watering the awards down over oversaturating them. Also we shouldn't be voting officially till December. October/November is too early to vote for of the year awards. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Icon73 said: It never used to be a thing its an unnecessary fluff addition IMO and crowds the awards. Here's what we need Fighter of the Year - best Open ID fighter of the year Restricted Fighter of the Year - Best ID of age restricted fighter of the year Manager of the year - best manager of the year New manager of the year - The best first time manager of the year Comeback manager of the year - The best returning manager of the year Most improved manager of the year - the manager who displayed the most improvement and rise in the ranks that year Alliance of the year - The best alliance of the year Org of the year - best org of the year Restricted org of the year - Best ID or age restricted org Tournament of the year - The best MMATycoon tournament of the year KT Fighter of the Year - Best KT fighter of the year Grappler of the year - Best Grappler of the year CEO of the Year - best org owner of the year (can be over multiple orgs or tournaments. Its about the owner themselves not the org or outside companies) Writer of the year - Best Writer of the year Company of the year - Best clothing or nutrition company of the year Designer of the year - Best designer of the year Avatar of the year - Best Avatar of the year Event Poster of the year - Best event poster of the year Event of the Year - Best event of the MMATycoon year Fight of the Year - Best fight of the year KO of the year - Best KO of the year Sub of the year - Best submission of the year Upset of the year - Biggest upset of the year Rivalry of the year - The biggest manager or fighter rivalry of the year Character of the year - Best MMATycoon character of the year delete the bold asap. trash. the 13-15 awards that I left is a bit too much, but I may consider conceding to silly stuff like poster of the year, avatar of the year, tournament of the year yadda. yadda. if the people who are doing that stuff are solely doing it for the little dumb profile badge that gets added. imo, do you really think the graphic designers are homing in for their participation badge at the end of the year? Doubtful. I think they like that custom avatar money for the free VIP. all that restricted fighter/org of the year is retarded. the manager improvement awards are stupid af. the new manager shit is dumb because it is almost always a returning manager with a new account. but that restricted org/fighter shit is just plain fucking stupid. seriously. if you care about that stuff... whatever. org of the year should be unanimous. don't categorize shit by ID limits. all orgs can be judged on equal footing, ID restriction or not. same with fighters. it's just dumb. you want more people to pay attention to awards and what not... don't saturate it. it's a fucking chore and a half sorting through that awards page and voting on shit. too much clutter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Rambo said: delete the bold asap. trash. the 13-15 awards that I left is a bit too much, but I may consider conceding to silly stuff like poster of the year, avatar of the year, tournament of the year yadda. yadda. if the people who are doing that stuff are solely doing it for the little dumb profile badge that gets added. imo, do you really think the graphic designers are homing in for their participation badge at the end of the year? Doubtful. I think they like that custom avatar money for the free VIP. all that restricted fighter/org of the year is retarded. the manager improvement awards are stupid af. the new manager shit is dumb because it is almost always a returning manager with a new account. but that restricted org/fighter shit is just plain fucking stupid. seriously. if you care about that stuff... whatever. org of the year should be unanimous. don't categorize shit by ID limits. all orgs can be judged on equal footing, ID restriction or not. same with fighters. it's just dumb. you want more people to pay attention to awards and what not... don't saturate it. it's a fucking chore and a half sorting through that awards page and voting on shit. too much clutter. Well clarification the restricted awards are somewhat of a rookie of the year. They still qualify for the overall best fighter and best org award. Its the same way it is in every sport. Also I'm not hung up on designer of the year since avatar of the year and poster of the year. But yes actually the designers do care about the awards and your idea to remove all awards for them is way over the top. They've always had awards. Idc about new manager of the year or comeback or most improved. Said as much in my own post. But new managers do care about the award and I do feel the best new manager could stay if there was a better vetting system. Best smack talker got split into to awards that are supposed to be more on the "fun" end with character and rivalry and it does seem people enjoy voting for that one. But I'm not hung up on these existing. Not sure why remove upset of the year. Overall no need to go overkill. Could you get it down to 20? Maybe, but I think your idea is too far the other direction. We're definitely in agreement in a lot of places though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzypants Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 I'd get rid of: KO of the year (just flavour text, who cares) Sub of the year (got grappler of the year, let's just assume he's had the best sub) CEO of the Year (got tournament of the year, got org of the year, don't need a combination of the two. Makes this pointless) Comeback manager (stick with the game and aim for manager of the year) Most improved manager (keep improving and get manager of the year) In the maybe pile: New manager (rookie of the year, not bad, that's if we actually have any new people playing this game?) Weight class fighter of the year (actually don't mind the best fighter in each weight class, but if we want to slim these bloated awards down then cut away, I guess). 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Fighter of the Year - best Overall fighter of the year Restricted Fighter of the Year - Best ID of age restricted fighter of the year Manager of the year - best manager of the year Alliance of the year - The best alliance of the year Org of the year - best overall org of the year Restricted org of the year - Best ID or age restricted org Tournament of the year - The best MMATycoon tournament of the year KT Fighter of the Year - Best KT fighter of the year Grappler of the year - Best Grappler of the year Writer of the year - Best Writer of the year Company of the year - Best clothing or nutrition company of the year Avatar of the year - Best Avatar of the year Event Poster of the year - Best event poster of the year Event of the Year - Best event of the MMATycoon year Fight of the Year - Best fight of the year Upset of the year - Biggest upset of the year Rivalry of the year - The biggest manager or fighter rivalry of the year Character of the year - Best MMATycoon character of the year We're now down to 18. How does this list look? @bazzypants @Rambo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Icon73 said: Fighter of the Year - best Overall fighter of the year Restricted Fighter of the Year - Best ID of age restricted fighter of the year Manager of the year - best manager of the year Alliance of the year - The best alliance of the year Org of the year - best overall org of the year Restricted org of the year - Best ID or age restricted org Tournament of the year - The best MMATycoon tournament of the year KT Fighter of the Year - Best KT fighter of the year Grappler of the year - Best Grappler of the year Writer of the year - Best Writer of the year Company of the year - Best clothing or nutrition company of the year Avatar of the year - Best Avatar of the year Event Poster of the year - Best event poster of the year Event of the Year - Best event of the MMATycoon year Fight of the Year - Best fight of the year Upset of the year - Biggest upset of the year Rivalry of the year - The biggest manager or fighter rivalry of the year Character of the year - Best MMATycoon character of the year We're now down to 18. How does this list look? @bazzypants @Rambo I like the original list, i do not see the problem with more awards, it is not like we are paying people if we add an extra one. Obviously some awards have much more weight than others. Maybe having Gold awards for the key 3 awards (Org, Manager, Fighter). Technically speaking those are the only 3 serious awards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teyoken Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 17 hours ago, bazzypants said: I'd get rid of: KO of the year (just flavour text, who cares) Sub of the year (got grappler of the year, let's just assume he's had the best sub) CEO of the Year (got tournament of the year, got org of the year, don't need a combination of the two. Makes this pointless) Comeback manager (stick with the game and aim for manager of the year) Most improved manager (keep improving and get manager of the year) In the maybe pile: New manager (rookie of the year, not bad, that's if we actually have any new people playing this game?) Weight class fighter of the year (actually don't mind the best fighter in each weight class, but if we want to slim these bloated awards down then cut away, I guess). Getting rid of KO of the year and Sub of the year would be a terrible idea. That flavor text defines the finish of a fight, and could be major. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 19 hours ago, bazzypants said: I'd get rid of: KO of the year (just flavour text, who cares) Sub of the year (got grappler of the year, let's just assume he's had the best sub) CEO of the Year (got tournament of the year, got org of the year, don't need a combination of the two. Makes this pointless) Comeback manager (stick with the game and aim for manager of the year) Most improved manager (keep improving and get manager of the year) In the maybe pile: New manager (rookie of the year, not bad, that's if we actually have any new people playing this game?) (remove it, aim for manager of the year) Weight class fighter of the year (actually don't mind the best fighter in each weight class, but if we want to slim these bloated awards down then cut away, I guess). I agree with all this, except the strike through. I wouldn't even argue removing grappler of the year outright tbh. pretty sure that's a new award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 7 hours ago, Icon73 said: Fighter of the Year - best Overall fighter of the year Restricted Fighter of the Year - Best ID of age restricted fighter of the year Manager of the year - best manager of the year Alliance of the year - The best alliance of the year Org of the year - best overall org of the year Restricted org of the year - Best ID or age restricted org Tournament of the year - The best MMATycoon tournament of the year KT Fighter of the Year - Best KT fighter of the year Grappler of the year - Best Grappler of the year Writer of the year - Best Writer of the year Company of the year - Best clothing or nutrition company of the year Avatar of the year - Best Avatar of the year Event Poster of the year - Best event poster of the year Event of the Year - Best event of the MMATycoon year Fight of the Year - Best fight of the year Upset of the year - Biggest upset of the year Rivalry of the year - The biggest manager or fighter rivalry of the year Character of the year - Best MMATycoon character of the year We're now down to 18. How does this list look? @bazzypants @Rambo long af lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzypants Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 8 hours ago, Icon73 said: Fighter of the Year - best Overall fighter of the year Restricted Fighter of the Year - Best ID of age restricted fighter of the year Manager of the year - best manager of the year Alliance of the year - The best alliance of the year Org of the year - best overall org of the year Restricted org of the year - Best ID or age restricted org Tournament of the year - The best MMATycoon tournament of the year KT Fighter of the Year - Best KT fighter of the year Grappler of the year - Best Grappler of the year Writer of the year - Best Writer of the year Company of the year - Best clothing or nutrition company of the year Avatar of the year - Best Avatar of the year Event Poster of the year - Best event poster of the year Event of the Year - Best event of the MMATycoon year Fight of the Year - Best fight of the year Upset of the year - Biggest upset of the year Rivalry of the year - The biggest manager or fighter rivalry of the year Character of the year - Best MMATycoon character of the year We're now down to 18. How does this list look? @bazzypants @Rambo Yep I think this is a good list of awards. Trims out (what I consider) the deadwood. I'm sure different people will have different opinions. Perhaps we should form some sort of committee, an awards committee if you will, I'm sure that would solve all arguments and be completely uncontroversial 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 9 hours ago, Rambo said: I agree with all this, except the strike through. I wouldn't even argue removing grappler of the year outright tbh. pretty sure that's a new award. Removing grappler of the year is excessive. There's an entire grappling portion of the game, no reason there can't be a grappler of the year award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 Doesn't matter if it's long as fuck. The awards are for everyone who plays the game and what one might be interested in another might not. If you're not interested in an award you don't have to vote on it. I'm more concerned with the awards being clearly defined. Some of them in the past have been quite vague and people have understood them differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, Alfred said: Doesn't matter if it's long as fuck. The awards are for everyone who plays the game and what one might be interested in another might not. If you're not interested in an award you don't have to vote on it. I'm more concerned with the awards being clearly defined. Some of them in the past have been quite vague and people have understood them differently. Agreed. I like my original list best with maybe a couple tweaks. I think the dropping of KO and sub of the year in a MMA game is a bit silly. The whole game is flavor text. (wouldn't mind ditching new, com back and most improved but don't mind then in either. Also I see Billy's point about CEO and designer of the year being overkill) There's no reason a MMAtycoon awards needs to be a bigger stickler than real life awards. Just also don't want so many awards that people stop caring about all of them. The individual weight class awards are IMO, overkill and are usually the least researched awards and hardest to get a fair vote one. They also drown out the other awards. Would rather just have a restricted fighter of the year (like a rookie of the year award) and a overall fighter of the year award. Would make it more meaningful as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 2:37 AM, bazzypants said: I'd get rid of: KO of the year (just flavour text, who cares) Sub of the year (got grappler of the year, let's just assume he's had the best sub) CEO of the Year (got tournament of the year, got org of the year, don't need a combination of the two. Makes this pointless) Comeback manager (stick with the game and aim for manager of the year) Most improved manager (keep improving and get manager of the year) In the maybe pile: New manager (rookie of the year, not bad, that's if we actually have any new people playing this game?) Weight class fighter of the year (actually don't mind the best fighter in each weight class, but if we want to slim these bloated awards down then cut away, I guess). After thinking it over I think Tournament of the year should go over CEO of the year. Tournament of the year to me is a tad silly, why are we giving a tournament an award? Also CEO of the year (or in MMA and boxing its usually Promoter of the year) is a real award is every single sport. And just like IRL we are promoters running our companies. I think it makes more sense to have CEO/Promoter of the year than having a tournament of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Icon73 said: Tournament of the year to me is a tad silly, why are we giving a tournament an award? Because we have since the beginning of the game. Tournaments take a lot of extra time and effort. A lot more so than most things in the game. Besides, it brings me back to my original point. Just because you think it's silly/pointless doesn't mean everyone does. There's no need to get rid of awards. Just make sure they are clearly defined and not open to interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 Could agree with the comeback and most improved manager being left out because we already have manager of the year and new manager of the year. Comeback is open to abuse and improved manager is hard to gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 25 minutes ago, Alfred said: Because we have since the beginning of the game. Tournaments take a lot of extra time and effort. A lot more so than most things in the game. Besides, it brings me back to my original point. Just because you think it's silly/pointless doesn't mean everyone does. There's no need to get rid of awards. Just make sure they are clearly defined and not open to interpretation. Yeah thats my point with Promoter/CEO of the year. Its for the best org owner who goes above and beyond. Tournaments would be apart of that. What have you done as a overall promoter not just the org itself. My point of it being silly was that it falls under another category that IRL is a real category thats very respected. You can get the same reward for a tournament under a more prestigious and realistic award. Awarding the TOURNAMENT its self is silly. Awarding the people who run them makes sense. Thats what a CEO/promoter does. Also there are categories we have started with that we no longer have. I'm not even proposing its total removal but more so that its acknowledged as part of another award that would clearly encompass it and be more prestigious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, Alfred said: Because we have since the beginning of the game. Tournaments take a lot of extra time and effort. A lot more so than most things in the game. Besides, it brings me back to my original point. Just because you think it's silly/pointless doesn't mean everyone does. There's no need to get rid of awards. Just make sure they are clearly defined and not open to interpretation. I think this is more a case of you not quite getting what I'm saying cause I may not clearly be defining it. You'd still be awarded for tournaments. But its done through CEO/Promoter of the year. My previous comment may have explained it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 I just don't see the point. You'd be basically consolidating two already fairly competitive awards. CEO and tournament. There's usually a fair amount of nominations for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alfred said: I just don't see the point. You'd be basically consolidating two already fairly competitive awards. CEO and tournament. There's usually a fair amount of nominations for both. Cause there's no real need to have both. I agree with billy that its overkill. I believe tournaments are apart of what sets you apart from other orgs/owners/promoters so let that be a thing thats apart of your CEO of the year resume. Awarding the tournament its self to me just seems a bit pointless as opposed to awarding the organizer/praising their overall resume as opposed to one moment. Like I do believe we should have one or the other and if I have to pick I think CEO/promoter of the year makes the most sense. Plus its a much more worthy award for these tournaments organizers. Ive never seen anybody bring up that they ran tournament of the year so and so year. I see people bring up CEO of the year though. I think the people running these tournaments (like you) should be up for that award cause thats exactly what you guys are. The promoters and CEOs that go above and beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 Billy said CEO is overkill. Not tournament of the year. I'd be more inclined to agree with that too as, like he said, we have org of the year and tournament of the year. I've said already though that I'm not in favour of trimming the orgs just because some of them don't interest the person advocating to get rid. Org of the year is easy. People will have different considerations when voting on it and it may or may not include the person who ran it. Remember, not all orgs are run by the same person for the entire year. For me it's the org that I have found to be the best run and most fun over the course of the year. I also consider the time and effort put into it (hence why for me orgs like Sucker Punch stand out currently as favourite over other unrestricted orgs that might have more hype but little else) Tournament of the year is a specific and memorable event that stands out the most in the calendar year of voting. We've had some epic tournaments in the past that have taken a ridiculous amount of time and effort on the part of the organiser (not to mention the stress and aggravation that comes from it) Fully deserves recognition of its own. It's also been a part of the voting since the beginning. Zero reason to cut it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, Alfred said: Billy said CEO is overkill. Not tournament of the year. I'd be more inclined to agree with that too as, like he said, we have org of the year and tournament of the year. I've said already though that I'm not in favour of trimming the orgs just because some of them don't interest the person advocating to get rid. Org of the year is easy. People will have different considerations when voting on it and it may or may not include the person who ran it. Remember, not all orgs are run by the same person for the entire year. For me it's the org that I have found to be the best run and most fun over the course of the year. I also consider the time and effort put into it (hence why for me orgs like Sucker Punch stand out currently as favourite over other unrestricted orgs that might have more hype but little else) Tournament of the year is a specific and memorable event that stands out the most in the calendar year of voting. We've had some epic tournaments in the past that have taken a ridiculous amount of time and effort on the part of the organiser (not to mention the stress and aggravation that comes from it) Fully deserves recognition of its own. It's also been a part of the voting since the beginning. Zero reason to cut it I never said billy said Tournament of the year should do. He said have org and tournament of the year makes CEO overkill. And I agree but I believe cutting tournament makes more sense. Again tournament organizers would be awarded... By being overall CEO/promoter of the year. It makes the award much more prestigious, it actually makes the award make more sense and purposeful and all in all it naturally rewards exactly the same thing an individual tournament award would along with other things. As of RN if we did just org of the year and tournament of the year I think it leaves a blind spot in the awards with overall body of work by a promoter for a year (which all tournaments are naturally apart of your body of work) So in the end we'll just have to agree to disagree. That being said no problem in having a difference of opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 what happened with these awards from 2009 to 2022 is exactly what happened with LGB to the LGBTQEMF committee fighter of the year (i'm okay with weight class trophies, and i'm okay without them) manager of the year org of the year alliance of the year company of the year fight of the year writer of the year 7 for jesus brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyster89 Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 My two cents - less is more. When you start adding awards for every single thing, they get watered down. I'm with Karter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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