I would like to say sorry for my actions

[Dee]

So the plot thickens... Damn, Im actually pretty embarrassed I sorta defended the guy in the first steps of this whole shit storm. I genuinely thought he was doing good for the sake of the new managers becouse I saw him reply to them a lot in the newbie section. Little did I know...

 

Anyway, I hope this all gets sorted quick becouse I personally hate the fact that these scammers take so much of Mike's time which he could use for way better things.

[darksoul]

who also seems to scam people professionally. People contacted LoD members to inform them of Mentor's wrongdoings in case they didn't see this, so that they could make up their own minds.

I'm quoting manne but this question isn't necessarily for you.

 

Anyway. This scamming stuff. Was it aimed at managers within Tycoon or was he recruiting within Tycoon to scam people in the real world?

[Scooby]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/c729207fda17d700dabb9cf82e7395d0/tumblr_n56gs09SMH1rs2xzto1_500.gif

[listerman]

@HorstButcher -> Who the fuck are you?

 

It is clear to all of us that the only reason you are posting in this thread is because Mentor sent a mass mail to the LOD alliance, telling them they should take his side in here.

You made your point, you're his bitch, now you can go back to playing the game, there's actually no point in defending such a crook. (Yes, crook is now the word I use to describe Mentor)

[Viking]

I'm quoting manne but this question isn't necessarily for you.

Anyway. This scamming stuff. Was it aimed at managers within Tycoon or was he recruiting within Tycoon to scam people in the real world?

A well known but unnamed/anonymous Tycoon member came in chat and told us: "Mentor said that I will get 50 cents for each of these emails i Send to people. And he later changed that to 50 cent / reply. "

 

Picture of the letter is in the Castor News 2: MENTOR THE CON MAN thread.

 

Edit2: And when i wrote this in castor News mannetosen remembered that mentor asked him questions about this too. Dunno when that happened tho.

 

Edit Im on the Phone so Cant Link it right now

[aylib]

He from Nigeria.

[darksoul]

He from Nigeria.

Well, if that's true then he must be genuine. Aren't they genuine? The guys from Nigeria?

[coton81]

Well, if that's true then he must be genuine. Aren't they genuine? The guys from Nigeria?

i hope so ive sent 3 nigerian peopel my bank account details awaiting my deposit

[GBK16]

Well, if that's true then he must be genuine. Aren't they genuine? The guys from Nigeria?

They are only genuine if you send them your bank number and credit card details...Oh and can't forget the please at the end.

[minark]

http://youtu.be/9u0EL_u4nvw

[shortfuse122829]

one thing i can see in this if people choose to stay in lod a alliance that mentor created some people might look on that as supporting him

 

i could be wrong saying that but that's how i look at things

 

I hate to say it but that's certainly how I would view the situation. By no means does that mean that I would "hate" or have a personal issue w/ anybody who stayed in LOD but I would have to give serious thought to doing business w/ people who accept/support a guy like that. If you know he's a cheat and don't care it would make me question their integrity and if they're doing these same types of things. Or you just support the guy because you'll believe anything he says in which case you're a puppet and I already avoid him, I certainly wouldn't want to be doing business w/ 1 of his puppets.

 

I was definitely willing to forgive and move on from this. I for one prefer to not take up too much of Mike's time w/ this type of stuff so am probably pretty quick to be willing to do so. I don't support or approve of any of the things he did but it's not like people don't get carried away w/ trying to gain a "competitive edge" everyday in real life. Athletes get caught using PED's, fighters obviously the same...hell some would even say the use of TRT is cheating the system. I don't hate or ostracize fighters I like when they make a mistake and get caught and I wasn't going to ostracize Mentor either. I was more then willing to give a 2nd chance, but those are typically given to guys who know they screwed up, are legitimately sorry for their actions & want the opportunity to improve as people and do better. The impression Mentor gave is that 1. He doesn't believe he actually did any wrong and was punished unjustly 2. He lied about what his actions actually were and gave the impression he had permission to do these things when Mike clearly stated that was not the case. 3. He tried to MANIPULATE (and let's be honest that's what it was) his entire alliance by giving them false information on both his crimes and the overall outlook from the community on their alliance so that they felt they had to stick together because it was them against the world and that was essentially the message he was trying to deliver.

 

Once again this guys arrogance just blows me away, the fact he doesn't believe he did anything wrong is pretty funny. I guess guys who lie/cheat/scam for a living are probably compulsive liars and end up believing their own version of events. I certainly don't think people need to try convincing any LOD members to leave. The fact they were informed of the true version of events is enough I think & they should be free to make up their own minds. But I for one will certainly be very wary of business partners of Mentor and to me that is the biggest shame of the situation and is just another of his crimes IMO.

[coton81]

I hate to say it but that's certainly how I would view the situation. By no means does that mean that I would "hate" or have a personal issue w/ anybody who stayed in LOD but I would have to give serious thought to doing business w/ people who accept/support a guy like that. If you know he's a cheat and don't care it would make me question their integrity and if they're doing these same types of things. Or you just support the guy because you'll believe anything he says in which case you're a puppet and I already avoid him, I certainly wouldn't want to be doing business w/ 1 of his puppets.

 

I was definitely willing to forgive and move on from this. I for one prefer to not take up too much of Mike's time w/ this type of stuff so am probably pretty quick to be willing to do so. I don't support or approve of any of the things he did but it's not like people don't get carried away w/ trying to gain a "competitive edge" everyday in real life. Athletes get caught using PED's, fighters obviously the same...hell some would even say the use of TRT is cheating the system. I don't hate or ostracize fighters I like when they make a mistake and get caught and I wasn't going to ostracize Mentor either. I was more then willing to give a 2nd chance, but those are typically given to guys who know they screwed up, are legitimately sorry for their actions & want the opportunity to improve as people and do better. The impression Mentor gave is that 1. He doesn't believe he actually did any wrong and was punished unjustly 2. He lied about what his actions actually were and gave the impression he had permission to do these things when Mike clearly stated that was not the case. 3. He tried to MANIPULATE (and let's be honest that's what it was) his entire alliance by giving them false information on both his crimes and the overall outlook from the community on their alliance so that they felt they had to stick together because it was them against the world and that was essentially the message he was trying to deliver.

 

Once again this guys arrogance just blows me away, the fact he doesn't believe he did anything wrong is pretty funny. I guess guys who lie/cheat/scam for a living are probably compulsive liars and end up believing their own version of events. I certainly don't think people need to try convincing any LOD members to leave. The fact they were informed of the true version of events is enough I think & they should be free to make up their own minds. But I for one will certainly be very wary of business partners of Mentor and to me that is the biggest shame of the situation and is just another of his crimes IMO.

Im the same now more info is coming out

[Viking]

From Legion of Doom alliance chat:

 

 

Mentor Guruland [Mentor] [2014-05-27 19:13:46] : One person which left is Brock. I removed a couple of inactive ones yesterday. We lost 3 due to the spam

 

 

 

 

 

All lies, except that Brock left that shitty alliance. The "Spam" mail as he calls it, was sent 1am Amsterdam time, 7 people have left not 3. Just pointing it out, this guy cant stop lying.

 

 

EDIT: I just want to say that I think its PATHETIC that this asshole tries to act like some kind of martyr/saint.

[Viking]

About the Scam Emails, as I understand it, what he does is he will manipulate you in to believing that his product is great, he will promise you gold, but in fact that shit is useless and basically impossible to sell. "Anti age" pills and stuff like that.

 

I think it goes a little something like this when he tricks people: "This product is revolutionizing, it will conquer the world, its the fountain of youth, all women wants to buy these products, you will be a millionaire in no time. I have a big empire, we are already in 10 countries around the world, this opportunity only comes once in a lifetime." etc etc

 

And then that poor person that he tricks will later realize that he is basically stuck there with useless shit. While this asshole probably drives a brand new Mercedes Benz S500, laughing at his victims, mocking them, just like he do with the people in this game.

 

Only an idiot would answer a mail like that in the first place, and he knows that. So he takes advantage of that. Exploiting their weaknesses.

 

 

EDIT: There is pyramid schemes involved as well, which is illegal in many countries.

[darksoul]

About the Scam Emails, as I understand it, what he does is he will manipulate you in to believing that his product is great, he will promise you gold, but in fact that shit is useless and basically impossible to sell. "Anti age" pills and stuff like that.

 

I think it goes a little something like this when he tricks people: "This product is revolutionizing, it will conquer the world, its the fountain of youth, all women wants to buy these products, you will be a millionaire in no time. I have a big empire, we are already in 10 countries around the world, this opportunity only comes once in a lifetime." etc etc

 

And then that poor person that he tricks will later realize that he is basically stuck there with useless shit. While this asshole probably drives a brand new Mercedes Benz S500, laughing at his victims, mocking them, just like he do with the people in this game.

 

Only an idiot would answer a mail like that in the first place, and he knows that. So he takes advantage on that. Exploiting their weaknesses.

 

I see. So basically he used MMA Tycoon to try and recruit people to scam non MMA Tycoon members, ie the general public?

[Viking]

 

I see. So basically he used MMA Tycoon to try and recruit people to scam non MMA Tycoon members, ie the general public?

 

 

Yes.

[Viking]

Check the http://ga-mma.com/ website for yourselves, scroll down and look to the right under "sponsored links" basically all information is right there, about illegal pyramid schemes and everything. I recommend you look at those contracts etc.

[igorbyhenikov]

http://cchristofi.com/

 

lmao check out the "products" and "business plan". I am familiar of similar type of scam in Finland, my "less talented" friend almost broke our friendship because i tried to save his money from pyramid scam. Luckily i was able to prove him that he is getting scammed.

[dbsh209]

"There is an old Greek saying “some people make money the hard way, others the clever way”

 

He even had the courtesy to have this in his home page, what a bell end.

[JJwayne]

Him and his wife have a lot of these sites. You can trace them back from 2011 and probably even more. I think that its their daily income and they are making money of idiots selling their useless products or building pyramided websites. Large portion of the sites are in Russian probably because of the legal trouble so you can translate them in googl translate if you want to. Here are few of them that I did find.

http://fitness-wellness-health.com/

http://cchristofi.com/

http://golden-team.ru/

http://buyvisionproducts.com/

http://kristof-house.ru/

http://www.kgminus.com/?i=42&l=ru

http://visiongoods.ru/item/show?id=1172

http://qlife.wellnet.me/

http://visionvkrasnojarske.blogspot.com/

http://vision.ucoz.ua/index/0-12

 

 

And they have a lot more but I am tired of searcing. If you are intresting here you have the man himself explaining how to make money.

 

http://youtu.be/6bpfDCb96P8

[Guest]

Ponzie schemes? What a pansy.

[Guest]

And they have a lot more but I am tired of searcing. If you are intresting here you have the man himself explaining how to make money.

Wow... that's totally not what I pictured him like.

I wonder if he has tv commercials that come on at 3am.

[GBK16]

Him and his wife have a lot of these sites. You can trace them back from 2011 and probably even more. I think that its their daily income and they are making money of idiots selling their useless products or building pyramided websites. Large portion of the sites are in Russian probably because of the legal trouble so you can translate them in googl translate if you want to. Here are few of them that I did find.

 

 

http://fitness-wellness-health.com/

http://cchristofi.com/

http://golden-team.ru/

http://buyvisionproducts.com/

http://kristof-house.ru/

http://www.kgminus.com/?i=42&l=ru

http://visiongoods.ru/item/show?id=1172

http://qlife.wellnet.me/

http://visionvkrasnojarske.blogspot.com/

http://vision.ucoz.ua/index/0-12

 

 

And they have a lot more but I am tired of searcing. If you are intresting here you have the man himself explaining how to make money.

 

http://youtu.be/6bpfDCb96P8

Does he know that 56% of all facts you hear people say on the internet are not real?

 

To be honest, he looks like a shady character in real life, so I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him in a game.

[JJwayne]

http://topmarketingtips4u.wordpress.com/tag/buy-vision-products/

 

Read this guy. This is how he ''uses'' his alliance.

[aylib]

Him and his wife have a lot of these sites. You can trace them back from 2011 and probably even more. I think that its their daily income and they are making money of idiots selling their useless products or building pyramided websites. Large portion of the sites are in Russian probably because of the legal trouble so you can translate them in googl translate if you want to. Here are few of them that I did find.

 

 

http://fitness-wellness-health.com/

http://cchristofi.com/

http://golden-team.ru/

http://buyvisionproducts.com/

http://kristof-house.ru/

http://www.kgminus.com/?i=42&l=ru

http://visiongoods.ru/item/show?id=1172

http://qlife.wellnet.me/

http://visionvkrasnojarske.blogspot.com/

http://vision.ucoz.ua/index/0-12

 

 

And they have a lot more but I am tired of searcing. If you are intresting here you have the man himself explaining how to make money.

 

http://youtu.be/6bpfDCb96P8

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