Guest Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 From the spoiler change... A note that assuming the remaining bug testing goes well, I am looking to bring in the training and fight engine changes next Monday (probably after London fights). I'll post up a link to a new wiki page which explains all the changes before Monday but in brief it will be a few new sliders, two new skills (transitions and escapes), some fight engine changes, the end of tickers (replaced by potential and age decline), plus a few other bits. Don't worry about a mad rush on Monday to change loads of stuff - that won't be a problem, even if you have fights on the day. Get ready boys, here it comes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 It's tuesday though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Ah disregard my previous post. Remember mike posting on here a few days ago about it coming out on monday.. that would have been yesterday but I now see he means next monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 It's tuesday though.. Yeah, believe it or not, next week there will be another Monday. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 RIP Mr. Royer it was a pleasure managing you. You will now be doing my fighters personal laundry cleaning their dirty drawers http://www.mmatycoon...er.php?FID=7391 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Yeah, believe it or not, next week there will be another Monday. Read my other message Edit: Found the post and I had also misread that Didn't notice the "week on" part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Yaay Im pumped for this! Hopefully my guys wont get too jacked becouse of this since they are mostly stand up fighters. :E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kole Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'm excited and scared at the same time. What if i can't adapt.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 I have missed something. Whsts the changes or must i wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatacre Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'm excited and scared at the same time. What if i can't adapt.... Ha, ditto! I've only got one direction my ranking can go too! To make absolutely clear, the excitement outweighs the trepidation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minark Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Show off! Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'm excited and scared at the same time. What if i can't adapt.... I am fairly sure that this will cripple many of my fighters, but I still feel that it is much better for the game overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762x39 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I am fairly sure that this will cripple many of my fighters, but I still feel that it is much better for the game overall. I hear that, about half my guys are in trouble. Lucky I have started different projects now and then so some are young enough to adapt. But still excited about the changes, was on the fence about renewing my VIP, but now will be like a whole new game to learn over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I am really excited about the changes but what if fighters signed in an org would want to take a break to train new secondaries? I guess most of the managers will want to train them. That hipotetical situation would cause that orgs would have to stop creating events because no one may fight on them. I am a little concerned about that. I hope that situation wouldn't happened . Bragi~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I hear that, about half my guys are in trouble. Lucky I have started different projects now and then so some are young enough to adapt. But still excited about the changes, was on the fence about renewing my VIP, but now will be like a whole new game to learn over. Me too. Will have to see though... may just pull points out of shit that is already really low anyway and then just train them up instead of trying to train up the new skills... somethings are going to have to take a hit no matter what though. I am really excited about the changes but what if fighters signed in an org would want to take a break to train new secondaries? I guess most of the managers will want to train them. That hipotetical situation would cause that orgs would have to stop creating events because no one may fight on them. I am a little concerned about that. I hope that situation wouldn't happened . Bragi~ I think that there is a potential for this situation to happen, but let us not forget that EVERYONE is affected by this. Wrestlers may be enjoying a surge of popularity though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rac2 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 hi mike, quick question, are you still looking to speed training up to allow for specific fight preparation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I don't see how this "cripples" anyone's fighters. I think the game was due for a revamp. the new system adds some flavor is all. I'm not sure of the reasons that a striker may be at a disadvantage. need to be well-rounded enough to fight in an MMA match anyway... what about KT fighters? will they even need to put any points in to the new skills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I don't see how this "cripples" anyone's fighters. I think the game was due for a revamp. the new system adds some flavor is all. I'm not sure of the reasons that a striker may be at a disadvantage. need to be well-rounded enough to fight in an MMA match anyway... what about KT fighters? will they even need to put any points in to the new skills? Of course. Without escapes or transitions how will a KT fighter ever succeed? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762x39 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Of course. Without escapes or transitions how will a KT fighter ever succeed? Thats funny. I just wish we could have done Diggs vs Orange before the changes. Diggs is a beast and will probably win either way, but would have been better to see when we were use to our skills and the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I don't see how this "cripples" anyone's fighters. I think the game was due for a revamp. the new system adds some flavor is all. I'm not sure of the reasons that a striker may be at a disadvantage. need to be well-rounded enough to fight in an MMA match anyway... what about KT fighters? will they even need to put any points in to the new skills? The reason for it crippling strikers is because they will need to put a considerable amount of points into those new skills more than likely and the ground fighters will not. Thus if your fighter is old (like my 31 year old striker) then it will be difficult to train up a new skill at his age. Not to mention what the Age and Potential hiddens Mike is adding to the game might do to them... My guy isn't over the Potential at all, so he will not be affected by that, but he very well could be affected and affected hard by the Age thing... Depending on how Mike does it then my y could suddenly stop learning all together having reached his learning apex. Not sure precisely how that will work. As far as adding diversity and flavor... absolutely, I totally agree... which was a rather large part of why this was done in the first place. But that doesn't change the fact that many of the old school strikers are likely to be crippled by these changes. And no, you KT Fighters will not need those skills at all. Unless they eventually transition over to MMA. All of this is not to say that I am bitching or crying at all... I welcome the changes and will adapt accordingly with the new fights that I am training up and will train up in the future. I will also make an attempt to bring my older fighter into line with these changes, but it is certainly possible that I will not be able to compensate and many may have to be cut and/or retired. I think they are what we have needed in the game for a long time to promote diversity and even to level the field a bit for all levels of play here. Ground fighters (of which I have more than a few of) will also be a lot tougher now I suspect. All in all I think it is going to be very good for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 The reason for it crippling strikers is because they will need to put a considerable amount of points into those new skills more than likely and the ground fighters will not. Thus if your fighter is old (like my 31 year old striker) then it will be difficult to train up a new skill at his age. Not to mention what the Age and Potential hiddens Mike is adding to the game might do to them... My guy isn't over the Potential at all, so he will not be affected by that, but he very well could be affected and affected hard by the Age thing... Depending on how Mike does it then my y could suddenly stop learning all together having reached his learning apex. Not sure precisely how that will work. As far as adding diversity and flavor... absolutely, I totally agree... which was a rather large part of why this was done in the first place. But that doesn't change the fact that many of the old school strikers are likely to be crippled by these changes. All of this is not to say that I am bitching or crying at all... I welcome the changes and will adapt accordingly with the new fights that I am training up and will train up in the future. I will also make an attempt to bring my older fighter into line with these changes, but it is certainly possible that I will not be able to compensate and many may have to be cut and/or retired. I think they are what we have needed in the game for a long time to promote diversity and even to level the field a bit for all levels of play here. Ground fighters (of which I have more than a few of) will also be a lot tougher now I suspect. All in all I think it is going to be very good for the game. I dunno, I think old school strikers will be okay. They have a lot of useless points they don't even need--things you've accumulated from sparring but never use...like elbows, knees, GNP, take off, ubmissions (might not accumulate to a ton under a weighted point spread system)--some might even give up an elite dgrap since they're more worried about escaping or transitions. Newer guys might have to take more away from the ones they want to keep like punches and kicks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I dunno, I think old school strikers will be okay. They have a lot of useless points they don't even need--things you've accumulated from sparring but never use...like elbows, knees, GNP, take off, ubmissions (might not accumulate to a ton under a weighted point spread system)--some might even give up an elite dgrap since they're more worried about escaping or transitions. Newer guys might have to take more away from the ones they want to keep like punches and kicks. That is an interesting perspective... I was planing on taking the points out of those skills as much as was feasible and only touching the "vital points" when absolutely necessary, but the problem then becomes, "how important will DG be post-change?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stu_Pidasol Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 You may also see a lot of "older strikers" switching straight to KT so they don't have to worry about these changes.. I know with a couple of my real old timers I may make the switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 That may also be an option. One that I will consider after taking time to see how things look post-change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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