PBR Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I tried using the phon version and I keep getting a 404 error. just checked the guys i havent done yet and no error on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 This really really really ruined one of my best guys. basically made him go from a good sprawler and brawler to an average fighter who would struggle lower tier never mind middle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlord Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Does it happen to some of you also when you click save and then some error occurred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Does it happen to some of you also when you click save and then some error occurred? are you giving at least 1 point to both escapes and transitions -- have to give at least 1 point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Nevermind... it worked now... Not sure what was wrong before, but it's working now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 This really really really ruined one of my best guys. basically made him go from a good sprawler and brawler to an average fighter who would struggle lower tier never mind middle... not sure why really -- i did couple strikers and didnt even drop a skill level in any skills -- ended up with wonderful escapes --- might not be where i want it but high enough to work with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 not sure why really -- i did couple strikers and didnt even drop a skill level in any skills -- ended up with wonderful escapes --- might not be where i want it but high enough to work with Is this with 1 transitioning? I have a fight in 5 days against a ground guy too.. I know this is kind of the point of the update but its harsher on some fighters than others imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 It is looking prett This really really really ruined one of my best guys. basically made him go from a good sprawler and brawler to an average fighter who would struggle lower tier never mind middle... Looking pretty grim for my guys also. My best fighters are Sprawl and Brawl, and now I suspect that they will not fare well against ground fighters. I think I may have to scrap the lot of them and start over again with new guys...I will give it a go though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Is this with 1 transitioning? I have a fight in 5 days against a ground guy too.. I know this is kind of the point of the update but its harsher on some fighters than others imo. yes 1 in transitions -- on my SnB stand up guys just used escapes -- transitions is more for ground game -- but it could bite me in the ass just dont think its all that needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 It is looking prett Looking pretty grim for my guys also. My best fighters are Sprawl and Brawl, and now I suspect that they will not fare well against ground fighters. I think I may have to scrap the lot of them and start over again with new guys...I will give it a go though. I can't scrap this guy as hes in the ITFL tournament. Looking very very grim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazylegzSwam Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 This really really really ruined one of my best guys. basically made him go from a good sprawler and brawler to an average fighter who would struggle lower tier never mind middle... pretty sure ppl aren't taking into account that the same thing is happening to their opponents, so the playing field will essentially stay level with existing vets while newer fighters become more competitive. especially once those warhorses start the dreaded decline. what i've been trying to find is a concise,. wiki-type explanation on the benefits of escape/transitions before i put the edit to my fighter's skill points. any help? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 yes 1 in transitions -- on my SnB stand up guys just used escapes -- transitions is more for ground game -- but it could bite me in the ass just dont think its all that needed Didn't mike say that transitions are used to defend transitions too or did I imagine that? Not quite sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlord Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 are you giving at least 1 point to both escapes and transitions -- have to give at least 1 point yeah i did reduce those 2 point skills that i knew when i created them are only 1 point and put it to escapes and transitions. But still error occured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 yeah i did reduce those 2 point skills that i knew when i created them are only 1 point and put it to escapes and transitions. But still error occured what does the error say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlord Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 what does the error say? Cant remember exactly cause i was already finished like 15 min ago but it says like error occured try reallocating it later. Anyway it is a done already and i dont think i see any error at all. BTW what if you didnt max out reallocating the points meaning there is still points left. Will the leftover points be returned to the skills that you took from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 BTW what if you didnt max out reallocating the points meaning there is still points left. Will the leftover points be returned to the skills that you took from? i dont think so they would probably just be lost -- for one it wouldnt know what skill you want the left over points to go back too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 yes 1 in transitions -- on my SnB stand up guys just used escapes -- transitions is more for ground game -- but it could bite me in the ass just dont think its all that needed Just conjecture, but I'm thinking escapes on their own will just get you exhausted trying to stand up with your opponent on top of you. I have a hard time believing you can successfully get back to your feet from your back with out transitions. Strikers are going to need both to get back to their feet I think, and that was how it was designed in order to tilt the balance away from Strikers a bit. I think we'll see grappler dominance for a month or two while strikers rebuild their skills. Overall I think the game will be the most balanced its ever been in about 2-3 months. Sucks for me because my #1 prospect faces a black belt in 5 days, I'm expecting to get subbed. At least I'll finally find out his confidence for the first time in 14 fights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarMachine Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Will new creations be given more points to start with if not that's not gonna help bridge he gap. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazylegzSwam Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Will new creations be given more points to start with if not that's not gonna help bridge he gap. ' i believe they will benefit by learning transitions/escapes much quicker than their ageing brethren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortfuse122829 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Couldn't be more wrong PBR - SNB'ers need transitions. It's the MOST important skill at defending adv pos attempts, so without any expect your guard to be ridiculously easy to pass, tough to escape from mount bottom. Oh and btw once I pass guard guess what skill you need to regain FG bottom. DING DING DING! You got it! Transitions! I was a little butt-hurt going from the wiki saying your transitions could go as high as d grapple, on 1 guy he has 12++ BJJ, 13+ wrestling and Elite d grapple. No matter how many points I take away his max skills allowed is 114.3 that's a massive difference from 140. Not sure how big an impact that'll play but I imagine rather large since transitions is the key skill to defending them. Under the old system I was elite at defending transitions and regaining full guard from a bad spot with the assumption d grapple USED to do that. Now, no matter how many skill points I remove I can't be better then wonderful - at it? That's a bit disheartening to a 30 yr old. He at least had strong - sub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortfuse122829 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 good luck to guys who had useless, you just became an irrelevant fighter unless you join KT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortfuse122829 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 meant SNB'ers need transitions PBR my bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 good luck to guys who had useless, you just became an irrelevant fighter unless you join KT Ive been giving all my old strikers subs for the last 2-3 months. I'm very happy I did it now. I only ended up doing one guy's re-allocation KT style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortfuse122829 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Yea, I wish I'd done the same at this point. Oh well, some guys will just go KT or get cut. Just unfortunate to think it could go as high as your d grapple to find out it can't. If I really wanted I could get my escapes to 139.8 where my d grapple is currently at. All the good that'll do my ground fighter! WOOO! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 good luck to guys who had useless, you just became an irrelevant fighter unless you join KT My itfl guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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