Scooby Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 So ive created 8 fighters in the last week or two and ive only had 1 that had a decent learning speed. I didnt even know learning speed could be as low as 3.75 I hit 4.95 once... I know Stu Mack has experienced the same recently. Has anyone else had the same poor luck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Not as bad as you, but a while back i got around 7 guys no higher than 5. I know learning speed isnt the be all and end all but i have no patience for those under 5 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 http://i.gyazo.com/55e67191f04c8d0194944e18eaf98fe0.png Let me just say, all of these were Projects (Bar the 4 guys who has more than 1 fight) and they all go not only mediocre to terrible learning speeds, but bad TOTT hiddens as well. Wasted pretty much a years worth of VIP to cut them all and get new projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1903 Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 On a good note i have never got a bad learning speed, lowest is 6.5 i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 I really don't think that script works properly so I wouldn't rely on it. I had someone say "I'm gettting garbage learning speeds with all my fighters" so I checked one and it was 117/150. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaston Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 I really don't think that script works properly so I wouldn't rely on it. I had someone say "I'm gettting garbage learning speeds with all my fighters" so I checked one and it was 117/150. Again, I'm no expert in this game but I agree with this. Without giving too much away, I had a 16 Year Old who the script claimed had a learning speed of 3.75. I can tell you for a fact that learning speed that script put out is a lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleMan Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 sorry for noob question but how can you determine learning speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 I dont just rely on the script because 15VIP days isnt worth being wrong every time... Theres two other ways... Looking at the actual skill bar percentage is one as well as the mere fact that you can look at the Tycoon Assistant page and see that after one session with an elite coach they end up with a 1- and then a 1+ after 2 sessions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shards Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Yea I dont use the script to test learning speed and I have some moderate fast learners and a couple fast learners. The issue I have with my fast learners is the seem to lack any sort of chin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortfuse122829 Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 The only reason I have always thought it works is it usually matches your --, -, +, ++ scale Mike. My guys who have popped under 5 usually show a - & my guys who have popped above 5 usually show a + My script is actually not working right now so I usually hidden test guys who pop to + Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 I've never used a script in this game. I've never cut a fighter simply because his learning speed was shit. In fact, I think the majority of my fighters are slow learners. Two of my slowest learners both reached P4P #1 (Taj al Din, Don Marciano) and my other slow learner was #1 P4P KT fighter (Qing Kong) for a long time. All you fuckers testing learning speeds to the micro-decimal and cutting fighters over it, are just silly. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwang Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 I had a bad run of slow learning 18 yr olds. I was looking for a tournament fighter so they needed to be average minimum. Maybe 7 in a row got sacked! Then when you find a decent learner they've gotta have good hiddens. It can be expensive if you're fussy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEpicity Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 It's a pretty simple process, if he doesn't go to useless+ from his first sessions (1 on 1 with Elite coach) then his learning speed is under 5 and he's a turtle. Doesn't mean they are bad fighters but you have to have A LOT of patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poraan Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 I think many people doesent even know that if your guy evolves 3,7 points/ first session, hes learning speed is 5,7... When my guy levels to abysmal, i check how much he gained last session. Never used greasemonkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniConor Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 My last 5 were: 5.4 >5.1 - tested with 2 -1 6.15 6.15 5.4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwt19744 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I have always operated under the rule its not a sprint its a marathon so a slower leaner is not a problem as long as there hiddens are good. Just My opinion though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 The only good thing about learning speed is having a stat advantage and ability to close the skill point gap between fighters with higher ID's, but there's a skill cap, so eventually they'll be caught or hit their peak. If you have slow learning speed, the probability that you got better rolls in other stats increases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwad12345 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 The only good thing about learning speed is having a stat advantage and ability to close the skill point gap between fighters with higher ID's, but there's a skill cap, so eventually they'll be caught or hit their peak. If you have slow learning speed, the probability that you got better rolls in other stats increases. That is statistically false. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shards Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 If you have slow learning speed, the probability that you got better rolls in other stats increases. Can you post your source? I have read nothing that said hidden rolls were somehow related to each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I had a slow learner i trained for almost a RL year with no fights and he is why i wont tolerate slow learners anymore. We all have our own methods however. Im not angry, i was just asking about luck. Im more excited about creating fighters than ive ever been now that we are talking about a game update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Can you post your source? I have read nothing that said hidden rolls were somehow related to each other. They're not, otherwise you wouldn't get fighters who pop "Hates Pizza" while other fighters have the ability to pop Granite Chin and KO Power, as well as having other top hiddens. I've got a couple of slow learners on my roster, but I am trying to do a system where I can develop fighters at the same time as having other projects in their prime. That's why I sacked so many, but it looks like it is coming into its place now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb613 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 That is statistically false. True, There is no limit to the amount of points distributed between the hiddens, it is theoretically possible to hit the scripted jackpot and have 150 across the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 That is statistically false. Probability factor. There's a 1 in 150 chance that you roll X - and in this case we'll say X = 1. The probability that you get 7 X's is low. Possible, yes, probable, no. If you scored a 1 on learning speed, the odds of you scoring another 1 on another hidden have just decreased. Granted, there's a 1 in 150 chance on each roll, but you should get where I'm going with this. If you scored 150 on learning speed, the odds that you scored 150 else where are unlikely. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjornmma1 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Lately , the learning speed has been ok for my young creations, but their hiddens are mostly not brilliant. When I started , I had 5 fighters in a row that I created and had a granite chin. Now I haven't seen a granite chin pop up in quite some time for my young fighters. I created one 16year old once and his learning speed was the worst I've ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwad12345 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Probability factor. There's a 1 in 150 chance that you roll X - and in this case we'll say X = 1. The probability that you get 7 X's is low. Possible, yes, probable, no. If you scored a 1 on learning speed, the odds of you scoring another 1 on another hidden have just decreased. Granted, there's a 1 in 150 chance on each roll, but you should get where I'm going with this. If you scored 150 on learning speed, the odds that you scored 150 else where are unlikely. Thats not how probability works. That is like saying if you flip a coin and it comes up heads 4 times in a row, the next flip is more likely to be tails. The probability of the next throw is 50-50. Past performance does not affect the outcome of independent random events. If you roll a 150 on learning speed the probability that, for example, power is 150 is the same as if learning speed was 1. What you're saying is actually a perfect example of gamblers fallacy. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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