Skuzbukit Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, Icon73 said: I would actually not agree with this. Best and most successful can only be a few things. Either represented through alliance pyramid wins or through success of the group overall (top managers, fighters, orgs). This definitely isn't a most fun award or a nicest group award mate. The guidelines of what the award is for is pretty clear. The only basis I've ever argued stepdads is the success of the Alliance (#1 managers, fighters and orgs.) There's isn't much wiggle room in this one for interpretation. The award has and always will be about success. Not just what alliance you like. I say all of this with no offense btw. If all that were true, no opinion poll would be required, just a measurement of the material facts. No offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted February 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Skuzbukit said: If all that were true, no opinion poll would be required, just a measurement of the material facts. No offense. Problem is what you choose to measure as I just said. And I didn't say no opinion. I just said it's not based on fun it's based on success and what you deem success is not all that "interpretable". You can go off a few things but all are performance based things (pyramid, rankings, orgs, fighters). And btw if you haven't noticed the only thing anyone has tried to argue is the measurement of facts. AJ and Bradley presenting pyramid wins. Other presenting the success of the top members, fighters and orgs of stepdads and how many awards we are winning or up for. Both of these things clear markers off succes and being the best (winning). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuzbukit Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Icon73 said: Problem is what you choose to measure as I just said. And I didn't say no opinion. I just said it's not based on fun it's based on success and what you deem success is not all that "interpretable". You can go off a few things but all are performance based things (pyramid, rankings, orgs, fighters). And btw if you haven't noticed the only thing anyone has tried to argue is the measurement of facts. AJ and Bradley presenting pyramid wins. Other presenting the success of the top members, fighters and orgs of stepdads and how many awards we are winning or up for. Both of these things clear markers off succes and being the best (winning). Which is part of the problem, what does a poll measure if not opinions? If you have multiple possible metrics then the poll should be which to use. If 20 people are asked how big a field is without the use of a common unit of measurement their answers are meaningless. Maybe next year I shall not be voting on polls based around nonsensical logic. No offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceSimmons Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 It's either us or YABAI tbh, everybody else trash. The Stepmoms can get individual awards, Convicted damn near dead, Next Gen are bums led by a bum, Smesh Hoes never even won the alliance pyramid. Stop all the cap 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted February 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 51 minutes ago, Skuzbukit said: Which is part of the problem, what does a poll measure if not opinions? If you have multiple possible metrics then the poll should be which to use. If 20 people are asked how big a field is without the use of a common unit of measurement their answers are meaningless. Maybe next year I shall not be voting on polls based around nonsensical logic. No offense. Very fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannetosen Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Skuzbukit said: If 20 people are asked how big a field is without the use of a common unit of measurement their answers are meaningless. I exclusively measure lengths in corgis myself. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtieBanks Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Skuzbukit said: Which is part of the problem, what does a poll measure if not opinions? If you have multiple possible metrics then the poll should be which to use. If 20 people are asked how big a field is without the use of a common unit of measurement their answers are meaningless. Maybe next year I shall not be voting on polls based around nonsensical logic. No offense. Look at it as voting for your whatever political party you support. Everyone has their different reasons for voting for it - no ones reason is incorrect nor is it correct. You can tell people your reasoning behind it but at the end of the day it is different for a lot of people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 17 hours ago, actionjackson said: Not sure I buy all of the logic being used here but frankly I'm not interested in siting around arguing like a bunch of school girls. I personally think it's more fun to compete each month as an alliance for a measurable achievement like the top division pyramid and think it means something. I'd 100% agree with this if the point system was better thought out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icon73 Posted February 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, imcool said: I'd 100% agree with this if the point system was better thought out. Same 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramirez Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 i think the point system would be way better if it was averaged across 100 fights per month as opposed to 30, that way there is no penalty for having lots of fights. just my 2 cents anyhow. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexManiatakos Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Ramirez said: i think the point system would be way better if it was averaged across 100 fights per month as opposed to 30, that way there is no penalty for having lots of fights. just my 2 cents anyhow. I absolutely agree . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeeble Posted February 25, 2023 Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 let's go next gen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 On 2/24/2023 at 8:47 AM, MauriceSimmons said: It's either us or YABAI tbh, everybody else trash. The Stepmoms can get individual awards, Convicted damn near dead, Next Gen are bums led by a bum, Smesh Hoes never even won the alliance pyramid. Stop all the cap 4GF + a backpack filled w/ stones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceSimmons Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 5 hours ago, imcool said: 4GF + a backpack filled w/ stones. Ikr, the other 4 guys must be awesome to dominate the pyramid with me weighing them down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 58 minutes ago, MauriceSimmons said: Ikr, the other 4 guys must be awesome to dominate the pyramid with me weighing them down Trolling Maurice is always fun, but he isn't THAT bad. He's won a fight or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceSimmons Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Columbo said: Trolling Maurice is always fun, but he isn't THAT bad. He's won a fight or two. Who are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 7 hours ago, MauriceSimmons said: Ikr, the other 4 guys must be awesome to dominate the pyramid with me weighing them down I'd tell you to read about 20 posts above, but it's not in your click-clack language, so you won't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Convicted easily won the Alliance World Championships in 2022, led by "Playoff" Willie Diggs, and if that doesn't determine who the best alliance is, what is the point. Any alliance that didn't compete in AWC should automatically be disqualified. Problem that Convicted has, is that we were so dominant for so many years that winning fights and top fighters has become stale to the community. We also don't cull our alliance numbers to try to game our way to the top of the pyramid. something we won almost every month for like 3 years in a row. at this point pissing excellence on the rest of you taste just like OJ from walmart, and y'all need us to do butt stuff to your fighters to get your attention. snubbed again in 2022, we'll be out for vengeance in 2023. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuzbukit Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rambo said: Convicted easily won the Alliance World Championships in 2022, led by "Playoff" Willie Diggs, and if that doesn't determine who the best alliance is, what is the point. Any alliance that didn't compete in AWC should automatically be disqualified. Problem that Convicted has, is that we were so dominant for so many years that winning fights and top fighters has become stale to the community. We also don't cull our alliance numbers to try to game our way to the top of the pyramid. something we won almost every month for like 3 years in a row. at this point pissing excellence on the rest of you taste just like OJ from walmart, and y'all need us to do butt stuff to your fighters to get your attention. snubbed again in 2022, we'll be out for vengeance in 2023. Fatigue is a real thing in any group and you can definitely become a victim of your own success if it makes the "competition" look like a stale foregone conclusion every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Skuzbukit said: Fatigue is a real thing in any group and you can definitely become a victim of your own success if it makes the "competition" look like a stale foregone conclusion every year. What competition? 2009 Fidel "Pinoy Savage" Puno (34-8-0) "Thunder" Tor Nansen (24-6-0) 2012"Sabretooth" Victor Creed (28-6-0) 2013"The Godfather" Don Marciano (58-17-2) Carl "Crusher" Creel (41-12-0) "The Tasmanian Devil" Taj al Din (45-10-1) "Parent Killer" Ryo Narushima (50-13-0) "The African Assassin" Smokudju Womba (46-12-1) 2014"Rasta Lion" Dustin Douglas (47-11-0) 2015Donny "The Bear Jew" Donowitz (61-15-3)Jameson "Guinness" Connemara (46-9-1) "Local Simpleton" Shinichi Onizuka (37-18-1) Leonardo "Voodoo Child" Ferreira (36-8-0) 2016Randolph "The Legend" Turpin (41-18-0) Sotiris Kakoullis (56-23-0) 2017Kajun "Pinoy Savage" Puno (32-9-0) 2018Orlando Diggs (43-19-1) 2020Kilo "Bloodbath" Maluga (53-12-0) 2021Pekka "Punchmaster General" Toivonen (40-13-0) 2022"The Split Decision Bandit" Dick Caunt (45-23-2) "Thicc" Dick Pawlik (30-17-1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuzbukit Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rambo said: What competition? Need I say more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceSimmons Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 3 hours ago, imcool said: I'd tell you to read about 20 posts above, but it's not in your click-clack language, so you won't get it. Racist mf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 10 hours ago, MauriceSimmons said: Who are you? I take it back. Maurice is a loser, and a knob head. His profile pic shows himself giving fellatio - Need I say more? Please continue to troll the bastard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbo Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Rambo said: What competition? 2009 Fidel "Pinoy Savage" Puno (34-8-0) "Thunder" Tor Nansen (24-6-0) 2012"Sabretooth" Victor Creed (28-6-0) 2013"The Godfather" Don Marciano (58-17-2) Carl "Crusher" Creel (41-12-0) "The Tasmanian Devil" Taj al Din (45-10-1) "Parent Killer" Ryo Narushima (50-13-0) "The African Assassin" Smokudju Womba (46-12-1) 2014"Rasta Lion" Dustin Douglas (47-11-0) 2015Donny "The Bear Jew" Donowitz (61-15-3)Jameson "Guinness" Connemara (46-9-1) "Local Simpleton" Shinichi Onizuka (37-18-1) Leonardo "Voodoo Child" Ferreira (36-8-0) 2016Randolph "The Legend" Turpin (41-18-0) Sotiris Kakoullis (56-23-0) 2017Kajun "Pinoy Savage" Puno (32-9-0) 2018Orlando Diggs (43-19-1) 2020Kilo "Bloodbath" Maluga (53-12-0) 2021Pekka "Punchmaster General" Toivonen (40-13-0) 2022"The Split Decision Bandit" Dick Caunt (45-23-2) "Thicc" Dick Pawlik (30-17-1) Ok, so you got lucky a few times. Don't go on Bro! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauriceSimmons Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Columbo said: I take it back. Maurice is a loser, and a knob head. His profile pic shows himself giving fellatio - Need I say more? Please continue to troll the bastard. Ok Monkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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