Dee Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Counter Strike! http://generator.gamingme.me/media/created/2msmg6.jpg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I was a bit nervous about the upcoming changes on monday. Now that I saw those new sliders Im terrified. For whatever reason I feel like my strikers will be obsolete soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kole Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 The new sliders is the thing that I'm most excited about in these new changes. At least until I find out that I can't set them properly and get my ass kicked even more than now 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umberts Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 New Sliders! WOAHH. VIRTOUZ WILL BE NUMBER 1 MANAGER SOON! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I was to lazy to read the whole thread, so I do not know if this has already been suggested. But I think one change that would take care of many training issues would be to tie potential to experience. So a new fighter, with low experience will only be able to make about 40% potential. But over time, as he amasses fights, he will be able to train more. This will make low level gyms useful, and take care of people not wanting to fight their projects to early since at some point you will have to fight in order to train more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minark Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I was to lazy to read the whole thread, so I do not know if this has already been suggested. But I think one change that would take care of many training issues would be to tie potential to experience. So a new fighter, with low experience will only be able to make about 40% potential. But over time, as he amasses fights, he will be able to train more. This will make low level gyms useful, and take care of people not wanting to fight their projects to early since at some point you will have to fight in order to train more. +1. I think this makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 So, Mike, did you fix the clinch too or are Elbows still garbage without Knees? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warlord Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 I hope someone will make a new thread for the explanation of that additional sliders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdidman Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Has this been mentioned, sorry if it has, but how will training work with coaches? I know some private gyms are at their max coaches, so who or what type of coach will do the training? Do gyms need to hire more coaches for these two skills? Will bjj or wrestling coaches be able to train these new skills? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyJones Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Last I read it was 50/50 wrestling/bjj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Jeesh. This might be Crassus' saving grace, I have only two fights before the big one to practice the new sliders... I'll might have to just go with 100% see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdidman Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Has anyone talked about the "experience" that mike wrote about? I like that, but why is everything always just geared to the top fighters? Why can't lesser fighters get "experience" from fighting better fighters? Maybe this experience will help speed up training in a certain skill. This might help with no fighter ever taking fights with fighters that are clearly better. So example, if you take a fight that might be elite in boxing, and a fighter who might be far under that fights him, the next time the lesser fighter trains a boxing skill he just earns some extra points towards that skill, you know, because he "learned" something from that more experienced fighter. Draw back for taking a fight with higher skilled fighters would be the high likely hood of losing and the added injury risk, but the upside would be the possibility of a upset and at the least, some experience to help in training. Anyone like that idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acoustic Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Typically a higher experienced fighter has higher hype/popularity and that is how you would benefit from facing them. If not, then there really isn't a point in facing them (just like in real life when Shogun turned down Glover). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtieBanks Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 Jeesh. This might be Crassus' saving grace, I have only two fights before the big one to practice the new sliders... I'll might have to just go with 100% see how it goes. This is what i said. The day after i fight Womba with Ryo. So its the exact opposite. Could help me hugely in one fight and then screw me in the next. You getting scared now Opa? Mannetosen has set my sliders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipjack Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I think the changes are great but I feel two things are a bit strange. 1. That only def. grappling will be relocating into transitions. Many stand up fighters has really high def. grappling while grapplers have put a lot of skills into other ground attributes. At least BJJ, should be in to consideration. 2. Skill decline, starting from 28 (!) Feels really really young. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomar1987 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8498/slidersu.jpg Yes potential does include physicals. i can't see this kind of sliders on all of my fighters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umberts Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 i can't see this kind of sliders on all of my fighters sa lunes pa kasi. hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I think the changes are great but I feel two things are a bit strange. 1. That only def. grappling will be relocating into transitions. Many stand up fighters has really high def. grappling while grapplers have put a lot of skills into other ground attributes. At least BJJ, should be in to consideration. 2. Skill decline, starting from 28 (!) Feels really really young. BJJ will be a factor in working out how this works. The points are not auto-relocating. You will have a page where you can reallocate points from other skills to raise the two new ones up. I refer you to this post: http://www.mmatycoon.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=33146&st=800&do=findComment&comment=427167 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I think I quite like this concept, though wouldn't it lead to a lot of Bispings? If by Bispings you mean fairly middle of the road guys, then yeah, but I'd find that better than the current infuriating state where your guy rolls a weak Hidden that isn't high on the ToTT hierarchy which cripples his ability and you don't find out he sucks for the better part of 18 months. Also on this topic, Mike, are you rolling it in before the finals of this VIP tournament: http://www.mmatycoon.com/tournament_bracket.php?TID=152 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
762x39 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I was a bit nervous about the upcoming changes on monday. Now that I saw those new sliders Im terrified. For whatever reason I feel like my strikers will be obsolete soon. Hopefully, stand up and ground guys are just a little more even. I would just like to see takedowns land a little more often, other than that I have been happy with the ground game. Takedowns should be harder to land then strikes are. So lets just keep our fingers crossed that they are not to over powered with the changes, but if so I am sure Mike will fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarMachine Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Something tells me that these changes are going to bring an influx of new players to the game... Hmmm... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatacre Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Hopefully, stand up and ground guys are just a little more even. I would just like to see takedowns land a little more often, other than that I have been happy with the ground game. Takedowns should be harder to land then strikes are. So lets just keep our fingers crossed that they are not to over powered with the changes, but if so I am sure Mike will fix it. It could well turn out that we see takedown success rates improving with this change, and without altering the fight engine. Reason being that the strikers will have to spread their defensive skills (primarily wrestling and BJJ focused) across a greater number of skills. Therefore we could well see more fighters trying to scrimp a bit on takedown defence. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipjack Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 BJJ will be a factor in working out how this works. The points are not auto-relocating. You will have a page where you can reallocate points from other skills to raise the two new ones up. I refer you to this post: http://www.mmatycoon...800#entry427167 1. I know it's not "auto-relocating". I just feel that in theory, useless-- bjj and wrestling, with elite++ def. grappling manually could be relocated into elite++ transitions. When I mean BJJ, I mean BJJ as a primary skill. At least BJJ as a primary skill should realisticly be considered into this. 2. I read it but still feel that 28 is way to young, regarding starting to decline skillvise. I mean most fighters has their breakthrough at that age, get signed by UFC and continues therefter. Yes, Hendo and Couture are bad examples but just look at the best; Anderson Silva. I don't think he started to decline at 28. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 If by Bispings you mean fairly middle of the road guys, then yeah, but I'd find that better than the current infuriating state where your guy rolls a weak Hidden that isn't high on the ToTT hierarchy which cripples his ability and you don't find out he sucks for the better part of 18 months. Also on this topic, Mike, are you rolling it in before the finals of this VIP tournament: http://www.mmatycoon...ket.php?TID=152 ? If that finishes Monday then yeah, it will be before the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 1. I know it's not "auto-relocating". I just feel that in theory, useless-- bjj and wrestling, with elite++ def. grappling manually could be relocated into elite++ transitions. When I mean BJJ, I mean BJJ as a primary skill. At least BJJ as a primary skill should realisticly be considered into this. 2. I read it but still feel that 28 is way to young, regarding starting to decline skillvise. I mean most fighters has their breakthrough at that age, get signed by UFC and continues therefter. Yes, Hendo and Couture are bad examples but just look at the best; Anderson Silva. I don't think he started to decline at 28. You're comparing the quickest decliners in the game with the slowest decliners in real life. You can use an example of Anderson Silva... great - in this game, he'd decline at 35. Ther are plenty of real life fighters who decline earlier than 28 (remember this game is meant to represent all of MMA, not just an equivalent of the UFC, where all the people with top hiddens end up). My own body started falling to bits about 23! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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